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	<title>Comments on: Constance McMillen and Barack Obama: Spiritual Prom Dates</title>
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		<title>By: When Bad Proms Happen to Bad People: Constance McMillen, Yet Again &#171; Call Me &#34;Miss&#34;!</title>
		<link>http://callmemiss.com/2010/03/12/constance-mcmillen-and-barack-obama-spiritual-prom-dates/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[When Bad Proms Happen to Bad People: Constance McMillen, Yet Again &#171; Call Me &#34;Miss&#34;!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I find unattractive in a person. If press accounts and television appearances are to be believed, Miss McMillen is selfish and self-centered, publicity-seeking, and scorched-earth in her approach to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I find unattractive in a person. If press accounts and television appearances are to be believed, Miss McMillen is selfish and self-centered, publicity-seeking, and scorched-earth in her approach to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: EW</title>
		<link>http://callmemiss.com/2010/03/12/constance-mcmillen-and-barack-obama-spiritual-prom-dates/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding dresses - and more about the othe cultures ;-)

I don&#039;t know how it is in the USA, but there&#039;s another more or less middle-class tradition here in the countries that formerly belonged under the Austria-Hungary empire and that is formal dancing lessons. Boys go there at the age of 17, girls at 16, mostly &quot;unpaired&quot; and even when they are, the dance teacher orders partner switches several times per lesson. The dances taught are basically those like in the dance competitions including latin ones, but in the &quot;common dance floor&quot; variant; some lecturing in the behavior at banquets or rauts is also included.
 
Included in the course are at least three &quot;ball-like&quot; lessons and in general something approaching formal attire is requested, so that the young ladies and gentlemen So that the kids at our &quot;prom night&quot; don&#039;t dress-up in the suits and shoulder-free ball gowns for the first time, usually.

You&#039;re right with that comment about how formerly those who didn&#039;t fit just went away to find a better place for themselves. Now it seems to me, that forcing those around me to comply and laugh at their unease is the way to go. Unfortunately.

I myself didn&#039;t exactly fit in at the high school years and years ago, being a nerdy geeky 5&#039; 10 bespectacled girl, but when I think about that after all those years - I don&#039;t think I would have been happier if there would have been an option to &quot;force them&quot; with the help of the law to accept me. Interpersonal relationships just don&#039;t work that way.

Someone at another blog wrote about the terrible small-minded small towns while praising some &quot;lesbian towns&quot; in Massachusetts. That gave me some thought - can&#039;t we have towns with a traditional mindsets as well as the other ones?

Sorry for the long outpouring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding dresses &#8211; and more about the othe cultures <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how it is in the USA, but there&#8217;s another more or less middle-class tradition here in the countries that formerly belonged under the Austria-Hungary empire and that is formal dancing lessons. Boys go there at the age of 17, girls at 16, mostly &#8220;unpaired&#8221; and even when they are, the dance teacher orders partner switches several times per lesson. The dances taught are basically those like in the dance competitions including latin ones, but in the &#8220;common dance floor&#8221; variant; some lecturing in the behavior at banquets or rauts is also included.</p>
<p>Included in the course are at least three &#8220;ball-like&#8221; lessons and in general something approaching formal attire is requested, so that the young ladies and gentlemen So that the kids at our &#8220;prom night&#8221; don&#8217;t dress-up in the suits and shoulder-free ball gowns for the first time, usually.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right with that comment about how formerly those who didn&#8217;t fit just went away to find a better place for themselves. Now it seems to me, that forcing those around me to comply and laugh at their unease is the way to go. Unfortunately.</p>
<p>I myself didn&#8217;t exactly fit in at the high school years and years ago, being a nerdy geeky 5&#8242; 10 bespectacled girl, but when I think about that after all those years &#8211; I don&#8217;t think I would have been happier if there would have been an option to &#8220;force them&#8221; with the help of the law to accept me. Interpersonal relationships just don&#8217;t work that way.</p>
<p>Someone at another blog wrote about the terrible small-minded small towns while praising some &#8220;lesbian towns&#8221; in Massachusetts. That gave me some thought &#8211; can&#8217;t we have towns with a traditional mindsets as well as the other ones?</p>
<p>Sorry for the long outpouring.</p>
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		<title>By: callmemiss</title>
		<link>http://callmemiss.com/2010/03/12/constance-mcmillen-and-barack-obama-spiritual-prom-dates/#comment-238</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your kind words--and thank you for a glimpse at how another culture handles proms.  I have always thought that the most important part of the ritual was the dress!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your kind words&#8211;and thank you for a glimpse at how another culture handles proms.  I have always thought that the most important part of the ritual was the dress!</p>
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		<title>By: EW</title>
		<link>http://callmemiss.com/2010/03/12/constance-mcmillen-and-barack-obama-spiritual-prom-dates/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The first article about the whole hullabaloo that I liked. I&#039;m shocked by the hatred aimed at the other students. Maybe Miss Constance should think a bit about the fact, that she can get a court-ordered party, but can&#039;t force people to attend it. Or - will be there in the future court orders to attend, dance and smile?

At the Czech equivalent of a high school we also have sorta prom night, but there is a small detail that would not allow Constances of this world show of such an extent - no-one cares about any (or no) dates, only the formal attire is requested. 
At the festive moment
http://www.malgym.cz/data/ples2.jpg
only the students of the last year enter the dancing floor and teachers decorate them with sashes of their own design. Then everybody applauds and afterwards a formal dance with teachers followed by a dance with their own parents follows. 
And that&#039;s it - so the only problem in the Czech variant might be a tux - but some girls wear trousers and corsages as well...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first article about the whole hullabaloo that I liked. I&#8217;m shocked by the hatred aimed at the other students. Maybe Miss Constance should think a bit about the fact, that she can get a court-ordered party, but can&#8217;t force people to attend it. Or &#8211; will be there in the future court orders to attend, dance and smile?</p>
<p>At the Czech equivalent of a high school we also have sorta prom night, but there is a small detail that would not allow Constances of this world show of such an extent &#8211; no-one cares about any (or no) dates, only the formal attire is requested.<br />
At the festive moment<br />
<a href="http://www.malgym.cz/data/ples2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.malgym.cz/data/ples2.jpg</a><br />
only the students of the last year enter the dancing floor and teachers decorate them with sashes of their own design. Then everybody applauds and afterwards a formal dance with teachers followed by a dance with their own parents follows.<br />
And that&#8217;s it &#8211; so the only problem in the Czech variant might be a tux &#8211; but some girls wear trousers and corsages as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Constance McMillen Gets Her Day in Court &#171; Call Me &#34;Miss&#34;!</title>
		<link>http://callmemiss.com/2010/03/12/constance-mcmillen-and-barack-obama-spiritual-prom-dates/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Constance McMillen Gets Her Day in Court &#171; Call Me &#34;Miss&#34;!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] appears in today&#8217;s Washington Post. And of course CMM&#8217;s earlier trenchant commentary, Constance McMillen and Barak Obama: Spiritual Prom Dates. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Jury Deliberates Verdict in Granich CaseThe [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] appears in today&#8217;s Washington Post. And of course CMM&#8217;s earlier trenchant commentary, Constance McMillen and Barak Obama: Spiritual Prom Dates. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Jury Deliberates Verdict in Granich CaseThe [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cam</title>
		<link>http://callmemiss.com/2010/03/12/constance-mcmillen-and-barack-obama-spiritual-prom-dates/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well-written article. I have started a Facebook group for people who are tired of Ms. McMillan&#039;s selfish, &quot;look-at-me&quot; nonsense: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=365842231746&amp;ref=mf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well-written article. I have started a Facebook group for people who are tired of Ms. McMillan&#8217;s selfish, &#8220;look-at-me&#8221; nonsense: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=365842231746&#038;ref=mf" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=365842231746&#038;ref=mf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Letterwoman</title>
		<link>http://callmemiss.com/2010/03/12/constance-mcmillen-and-barack-obama-spiritual-prom-dates/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Letterwoman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Proms are so...Revere Beach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proms are so&#8230;Revere Beach.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://callmemiss.com/2010/03/12/constance-mcmillen-and-barack-obama-spiritual-prom-dates/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When they out law proms only outlaws will go dancing...........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they out law proms only outlaws will go dancing&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: callmemiss</title>
		<link>http://callmemiss.com/2010/03/12/constance-mcmillen-and-barack-obama-spiritual-prom-dates/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[callmemiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And so are you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so are you!</p>
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		<title>By: callmemiss</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[callmemiss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are a promophobe!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a promophobe!</p>
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